Nigerians Controversy Over Abducted Girls

It’s Wednesday morning, I am Sam Adeyinka – your host on today’s “Blogging Symposium”. Today we will be talking about some of the happenings going on around us in Nigeria. When I say “happenings”, I mean the sad things, which has now become so trending in our society.

I’d like to do some quick breakdowns.

Now, I’m guessing you know that a lot of bad things have been happening in Nigeria as of late. You know from the issue of Mr. President’s kind gestures of the removal of fuel subsidy to Boko Haram palavers and to Mrs. Odua, who controversially bought a BMW car worth #250m and the next day traveled with the President to Israel…I mean I can go on.

Trust me, a whole lot of appalling situations have happened and continue to happen in Nigeria, and it as left me wondering if Nigeria can ever be fixed, that is, be better.

Majorly, these bad things bother around the ‘Boko Haram’ group, who believes that “Western Education is wrong (a sin)” and that every teenage girl from the age of 12 and above should be married and not be in school.

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For those of you who have been following the news and have been following this said happenings analytically, would agree with me that many lives have been lost due to the catastrophic and merciless bombings of this Boko Haram group led by Abubakar  Shekau.

(Statistics have it that over 12,000 lives have gone to the bombings of this Boko Haram set)

That said. I should jump on to the discussion at hand and let me quickly introduce you to our fantastic guests as we begin to rub off minds on this issue.

Sam Adeyinka

So we have Miracle Ayodele, Sunday Ogali, Oluwayemisi Atobatele, Timothy Femide and Antonio Kelechi.

You’re welcome guys!

Sunday Ogali

Thank you, Sam. It’s actually good to be here.

Sam Adeyinka

Basically, we are talking about the Abduction of the Chibok Girls and we hope to trash out this and some other issues in-between and possibly we hope to be able to generate a way out of this mess. Hope you’re still with us? So Yemi, what is your take on the Boko Harams and their views? Do you think their cause is a just one?

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

Sam, I think it’s purely a political propaganda…they are not justified in any way; they are just bunch of demons in human clothing.

TimothyFemide

Did u say ‘just course?’ What is just about violence and killing of people? I don’t think killing people is just, I believe it to be wickedness and a devilish act.

Sam Adeyinka

But you heard what Abubakah Shekao said in his speech to Nigerians on the national TV. In case you’ve already forgotten that, let me remind you. He said he and his troop are only doing Allah’s bidding.Not sure if that’s right though.

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Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

Like I said before, it’s just a political propaganda and nothing else. The dude is a liar. I mean the last I checked, it was said that Allah and God is the same. So if they are the same, then Allah can’t ask a man to kill another man in the name of religion as that’s not in my Bible.

Sam Adeyinka

I agree with you Yemi and it was just last week when I saw a video of one Muslim dude saying “Boko Harams are Liars”. He actually said a lot of things and backed his claims up with the Quran kind of.

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

See? It’s just a political brouhaha. And come to think of these, the girls are 234,the Nigerian code is 234,is that a coincidence? I heard Government gave the parents of the girls #1m each,for what? Is it to compensate them? Their names are yet to be published,why? There are a lot of questions that needed to be asked.

Sam Adeyinka

Hmm Yemi I like your argument and that was a good question you raised. What should the parents do with the money? Use it to by food stuffs?

Sunday Ogali

I was having a chat with some friends some few days ago and someone said those girl’s ain’t abducted. That’s not real.

TimothyFemide

Ogali! It’s real those girls are abducted and I got a video on how one of those girls was stoned to death on whatsapp today.

Antonio Kelechi D’great

Timothy, that video is not real, plus its an outdated video.

Timothy Femide

Are you saying that video is unreal?

Antonio Kelechi D’great

Yes it is. That video was shot in 2008…it’s a video of one Aisha.

Timothy Femide

Our leaders are bent on doing anything to seize power….our leaders are demonic

Sunday Ogali

Timothy? They are beyond demonic

Sam Adeyinka Damilola

Okay thanks. So lately, they were at Abuja, precisely in Yanyan, where they again did their evil work which led to the death of over …. Persons. A friend of mine was in that particular scene but was saved by grace.

Not to go into details but she mentioned to me how bad it was and how people got injured and how it affected houses in the neighborhood.

It’s so sad that these things are happening in our country. But I’m wondering, how are we sure this people are fighting for God’s course- that they claim they are and not working for some political juggernauts?

Sunday Ogali

Hmmn..

Miracle Ayodele

The number one thing you all have to know is that we believe whatever the government wants us to believe. We are all insecure, but I hate it wen an elder is filled with mediocrity.

There is a popular saying in Yoruba but will be interpreted in English that, “It is not possible for the elders to be in the market and the head of a new baby will be turn aside or displaced”.

The elders in dis country no perfectly well of the things going on we are only filled with fear to protest and fight.

We should remember that Boko Haram or whatever was founded by a politician for some political agendas.

Now I will like to question the authority of the school they took those girls from. I mean how could they (the school authorities) not know when the girls were taken and what is the Government doing to resolve this issue?

Sam Adeyinka Damilola

Miracle, that was lovely. Speaking about Boko Haram, I still remember when they started 5yrs ago that it was rumored that some politicians are the ones sponsoring them but Shekau has come out times without number that their cause was/is inspired by Allah. We don’t even no what to believe again.

And about your questions, the abduction of the girls is something that’s still not clear to me. But some rumors have it that Boko Haram’s had disguised as the soldiers placed to guard the where taken down.

As per the Government and what they are doing, I’m not sure they were willing to do anything to it had the rants of #bringbackourgirls not gone viral and has other countries not joined the protest.

I think it just boils down to the fact that our elders like you said have some kinda hands in the abduction of the girls.

Sam Adeyinka

Let’s take this ‘chat’ from Daniel. Welcome Mr. Daniel; we are discussing about the happenings in Nigeria, especially that of the abducted Chibok girls…what’s your take on it sir?

Daniel Onah

Yah tanks bro. Well, what I just have to say is that God will help us, because I don’t understand the way tins are going in naija again

Sam Adeyinka

Well, Mr Daniel, I’m a believer that Nigerians mentality of “God will help us” is one of the factors aiding the continuity of the bad happenings in the country

Daniel Onah

In everything you have to call the Name of God. He is higher than everybody on earth. I mean he is greater than the greatest.

Sam Adeyinka

Okay, that was Mr. Daniel. He is sharing his opinion from the spiritual point of view.

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

Let me just say this; like Daniel stated, I feel everyone of us should put Nigeria in prayers, whether it is political hand-works or not.I believe spiritually sensitive ones will know that Nigerian’s Land is filled with blood and its crying for vengeance,only God’s mercies can truly deliver us.

Sunday Ogali

Yeah

Sam Adeyinka

Now, here’s the heart of today’s discussion. About a week ago, it was stated that 247 students (girls) were abducted by these same devilish group. Two of the girls I heard are dead and about 20 of them are seriously ailing.

American President Barack Obama in a statement some weeks ago, asked to render help but our noble president said “NO” that it will be sorted out. Though the American security have now landed safely in Nigeria. The question is can we really help ourselves, I mean without the help of a higher force like America?

Sunday Ogali

I think.the answer is an obvious NO. We do not have the build to match an insurgency with such physique.

Sam Adeyinka

You think so? I say we can..so let’s get serious

Miracle Ayodele

Sam, you think we can? Why do you say that? I second Sunday on this.

Sam Adeyinka

Sure we can brother.

Sunday Ogali

Sam’s right, Miracle, indeed, we have good ground forces to combat the insurgency but we lack innovative ways of information gathering…and that is very vital in any serious happening such as this.

Sam Adeyinka

Sure we have the man power to fight back the Boko Harams but it’s so unfortunate how we have shown a lack of bravery and battle experience instead of fighting.

Miracle Ayodele

Fight? How do we fight them when they have all the ammunition you can think of in their arsenal? By the way, I think with the trending of the #bringbackourgirls we should indeed be able to get them back soon.

Sam Adeyinka

Indeed bro, that’s the trend now. And I love the initiative but I believe in the science that says, “Let’s work our talks!”

Sunday Ogali

Sam, you don’t expect them to go head on into the forest to fight, that’s not bravery, that’s suicide. I feel that with sufficient information gathering techniques AND the right, well-mobilized ground forces, plus air strike teams, these guys can be sorted out. And let’s be realistic here: if it was any of you here will u be wiling to LEAD the troops to battle?

Miracle Ayodele

When the US Govt finds the girls, what do you think will be our pride? The US Osama and brought him down are they were boastful of it.

Sunday Ogali

@Ayodele, the US troops have confidence in themselves BECAUSE they know they have the adequate backing of their government not to mention the innovative technological devices that they can pride their army on. Our troops DO NOT HAVE this, so i can’t blame them. Without technology, our troops are like little boys fighting guns with stones.

Sam Adeyinka

That’s the problem I have with Nigeria and Mr. President. Sunday, does that mean we don’t have the money or the resources to get those said devices?

Miracle Ayodele

Oh sure, we have the money but we re busy eating the seed instead of planting it.

Sunday Ogali

@Sam, funding is not the problem. Let’s try to understand that Nigeria is still a developing nation. It takes time and a cemented plan to achieve stability in such areas of the military. It’s not about getting devices, its about having trained personnel who can manage them and hence re-train other troops to use them. It takes time.

Miracle Ayodele

Sunday, we know that all countries were once developing nations, when do we stop calling or categorizing our self in such group?

Sunday Ogali

It takes time. Development is not a day

Miracle Ayodele

hmm

Sunday Ogali

Development is not a day’s journey…did u grow up in one day?

Miracle Ayodele

You say 50years is still developing? I didn’t grow up in just a day but Nigeria is not a day old. We’re above 50 man!

Sam Adeyinka

You’re funny, Ogali. Developing nation? How? I don’t think so. 53 years isn’t a joke and nations that are not up to our standard in well world ranking are not experiencing the kinda hardship we are now experiencing. I think it boils down to the head, bro.

Let’s take this chat from Jerry. Jerry we are discussing about Boko Haram and bout the Chibok girls.

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Jeremiah Unekuojo Ogbe

Morning guys! I really don’t think there’s much we can change here as the Government themselves aren’t doing anything and by the way, I feel a number of people will certainly have to die for the cause,that’s what I call a revolution baby. After all we’ve lost 4000 lives since the inception of this group

Sunday Ogali

@Jerry, will u lead the troops to battle these guys? It would be a sacrifice never forgotten..

Jeremiah Unekuojo Ogbe

@Sunny,I ain’t got the skill

Miracle Ayodele

4000 lives?

Jeremiah Unekuojo Ogbe

@Miracle,yeah that’s the statistics we got..

Sam Adeyinka

Thank you so much Jerry for you time. By the way, 4000? It’s over 12,000now and I say that’s so huge and they coninue to kill people in cold blood. So sad!

Miracle Ayodele

Very sad

Sam Adeyinka

So back to what we were saying before the call, Ogali you were saying…

Sunday Ogali

@Sam, Its like comparing the time of our fore fathers to this present time we find ourselves….Its obvious that its more difficult to grow in these new age than the olden days….Nigeria is a country growing in the midst of these problems…I think we’re doing well., just some few loopholes need to be covered.

Miracle Ayodele

These loopholes, Ogali, have existed for long, when would they be covered?

Sunday Ogali

It takes time…..

Sam Adeyinka

We don’t need a tranquilize drug of gradualisim. We want it to be fixed now because now is the time!

Sunday Ogali

They will be covered when sound mind like ours begin to rule.

Sam Adeyinka

Haha funny dream……”If wishes are houses they say beggars would ride on houses”.

Sunday Ogali

@Sam, horses you mean…Well, it will one day be real when we get into power.At least if u have a vision of how the nation should be, when you get there you will make it happen

Sam Adeyinka Damilola

Before and after I was born, the word, “we are the leaders of tomorrow” was everywhere. Till now the people ruling then are still in the helms of affair. How would we ever rule?

Miracle Ayodele

Yeah. I also spread the news at the time but I am no fan of the word “one day” That said. We want the change to start now.

Sunday Ogali

Patience is key, Ayo….Patience…BTW, the situation of Nigeria does not change my vision neither does it affect my personality.

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I am a good citizen and I believe that there are more like me out there and if we continue to spread the gospel of being patriotic and positive minded, one day the power will be ours and we can play our part to move the nation forward

Timothy Femide

We can’t rush things here…..it’s obvious we are all not satisfied with the circumstances surrounding us and with the situation of things now……..we just av to pray and act wisely…..HAVE YOU PRAYED FOR NIGERIA TODAY

Miracle Ayodele

@Tim sure I do pray for Nigeria every day

Sunday Ogali

Talking about prayer….well, it is very vital sha…but prayer without works amounts to nothing. You have to do something first, then use your prayers to seal it. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HELP NIGERIA?

Timothy Femide

I’m doing some underground works myself, bro Ogali.

Sam Adeyinka

By the way, three days ago, a video of Nigerian First Lady broke out like a viral disease when she was trying to sympathize with the abduction of the innocent girls.

I think that her sympathy isn’t in anyway genuine. What do you think?

Sunday Ogali

@Sam, the first lady tried sha. She gave us a good laugh despite the troubles we are facing at the moment. She did well.

Miracle Ayodele

It’s a fake sympathy, Sam. The Chibok girls were abducted 2weeks before she came out on public to useless herself.

Sam Adeyinka

Haha

Sunday Ogali

But crying on national TV is a big slap to our image. It shows how fragile she is. Not fit to be a first lady. If she will cry during this time, then where do women derive the courage to face this situation from?

what a shame.

Miracle Ayodele

I agree with u Sunday

Sam Adeyinka

And you believed that cry. I think its not a real cry, she was only acting and trust me she acted that part so well

Timothy  Femide

Leave the first lady with her problem…and lets concentrate on the discussion at hand

Sunday Ogali

Even if she acted it’s still a big slap. She shouldn’t cry on national TV. What a weak woman

Timothy Femide

The first lady indirectly demonstrated the countries situation….NIGERIA IS CRYING

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

Common sense will tell anyone that those tears are fake..or why would she have an handkerchief with her even before crying? I believe Nigerians are smarter than to believe she was weeping truly.

Sunday Ogali

@Yemisi, she gave us a good laugh to console us during these hard times…she should be given a national award. Dont u think?

Daniel Onah

The funny part first lady said in her speech that THE BLOOD WE ARE SHARING. Too much grammar anyway is not her papa language

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

@Sunday,maybe….@Daniel,u can imagine,how many people are sharing blood.gosh! That woman is a public disgrace to Nigeria but the truth of the matter is there’s nothing anybody can do about it,she remains the first lady

 Sunday Ogali

I don’t think she should have cried on TV. Not needed. If our first lady is crying like that, where do our women derive hope and courage from?

Sunday Ogali

She isn’t important abeg..she’s just there because someone has to sit on that seat

Sam Adeyinka

Speaking bout the first lady fake sympathy, the incidence happened several week before she came out to shed her crocodile tears.

You didn’t see the video yet? See it below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JIzrvtaOjyM

 

Now, I know we’ve. Discussed this but what is your general take on Nigeria Security?

Timothy  Femide

In one word, it’s appalling!

Sunday Ogali

Very true Timothy. It’s really appalling.

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

The security level is at a zero level

Sunday Ogali

@Yemisi, I believe we are not yet equipped enough to battle insurgency. Criminals are more equipped than vigilantes.

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

Agreed

Sam Adeyinka

Really more equiped and that’s a blow on the face of the government

Sunday Ogali

So, until then, we are fighting with sticks and stones…cuz d weapons these guys use to carry out their acts are only seen in movies by most Nigerians, even the so called ‘armed’ forces

Sam Adeyinka

Someone must be sponsoring them to this deadly acts. What do u think?

Sunday Ogali

I’m sure they have sponsors, because ordinary uneducated people cant afford such guns. I suspect Buhari has a hand in itafter all, he said that Nigeria will be ungovernable if a Northerner is not made the president.

Sam Adeyinka

Buhari? What made u think so sir Ogali?

 

Sunday Ogali

His statements and the corresponding happenings in Nigeria

Sam Adeyinka

Oh oh. But from what I garnered, Boko Haram started evolving since 2000 during the Obasanjo’s regime, when he tool one of their leaders down.

Well, the American intelligence are here, and we are yet to see them do anything so far. Do you think they can contend with Boko Haram?

Sunday Ogali

I believe they have links with them. I don’t trust the US.

 

Sam Adeyinka

Here’s my believed though, Nigeria can solve this issue of Boko Haram and get the girls if we truly wanted to because we’ve got all the man power, the resources, like money and what you.

But till now we have been unable to owing to the high level of corruption and theft in our country.

What do you think about this? How can we get our leaders to change? Must we wait till the likes of Sunday Ogali is there?

Daniel Onah

well @Sam I think all that has been happeing most of this our leaders knows about it. I think they are fight because of the election that is coming 2015. Is northerners born to rule alone?

Even we dont need to hire US before we bring the issue of boko haram to an endour leaders are behind it

Sam Adeyinka

Good question. Boko Haram has been over 8yrs, but became strong shortly after president was sworn in. Now, Ogali believe Boko Haram’s appearance is as a result of Buhari hating on Jonathan’s presidency success. How true is that?

Daniel Onah

I think Buhari is still planning to rule which is not possible, he does not want to see Jonathan success during the election in 2015 i think he want scatter everything so that people will be afraid to vote for Jonathan. I think Ogali is right.

Sam Adeyinka

Not only he but all of them. They are not ready to live the helms for fresh blood like us yet…..it makes me question the word “we are the leaders of tomorrow”.

Daniel Onah

ha ha ha ha so are you planing of becoming a president? Presidency is a problem position I mean it’s not easy trust me. And it’d so tempting bro.

Sam Adeyinka

Here’s my believed though, Nigeria can solve this issue of Boko Haram and get the girls if we truly wanted to because we’ve got all the man power, the resources, like money and what you. But till now we have been unable to owing to the high level of corruption in our country. What do you think about this?

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

Nigeria does not have any manpower. The armunitionstheBoko Harams uses are highly sophisticated. And even if our military guys are armed from head to toe, it still will not curb them(Boko Haram).I believe the root cause of everythn is corruption

Sam Adeyinka

For crying out loud, President Jonathan is the Comander in chief of armed forces! Should we say our Armed forces are incapable of rounding up the Bokoa Harams? What’s the essence of sending them to abroad to be trained and all those stuffs if they cannot kill a bird?

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

 

I think the name should be changed from chief of armed forces to something else…or what do you think?

Sam Adeyinka

I think I support you on that Yemi. Well, with this acceptance of the US intelligence, do you think we’ve moved forward in putting an end to the terrorism in Nigeria?

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

US can’t help us with anything….my take on that is that d USA has hand in it.I mean they’ve been here since more than week and not has yet happened. And even Abubakar Shekao still goes about threatening Nigerians.

Timothy Femide

We still haven’t discover the source of our problem…who are the terrorists,are they the Boko Haram sect of the people in Government

Sam Adeyinka

That’s one question that needed answer……some say Boko Harams are muslim fighting Allah’s course while some others say they are working for Buhari. How true is that?

Otunba Adeyinka Damilola

Yemi, I accept that corruption is our major problem…..and yes it has so eaten us up and it’s part of what is demoting us in this country. But your latter thought is what I find difficult to agree with. I mean how possible could the USA have an hand in what Boko Harams are now inflicting us in Nigeria, considering they even are rendering hands of supports.

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

Its pretense, Sam. Boko Harams are definitely Muslims but whether they are fighting Allah’s course is what I cant say but Boko Harams are not Christian…neither are they traditionalist

Otunba Adeyinka Damilola

Well, it’s obvious they’re Muslims but I’m just no sure if truly it was in their Quran to kill for Allah’s course.

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

I don’t know..naturally Muslims are violent people and I have often hear some of them say that their Allah asked them to kill whoever that is against them

Otunba Adeyinka Damilola

I’ve heard so too Yemi. So I was reading Ayo Ozugbaku’s status when I happened on this:

“At this time of national crisis,I’m embarrassed nigeria is saddled with a president who does not inspire confidence,who is indecisive, who blabs incoherently where he should be authoritative and assertive,who cannot hold his ministers accountable for serious misdemeanor. I’m embarrassed for this president every time he allows his wife to ridicule his government by dabbling into affairs of the state.her intervention in the chibok affairs is so comical,yet so tragic for our nation. Eniola Bello ( md this day newspaper) Hmmmmm, my people, do you agree with Eni B?”

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

Yeah I agree. He’s incompetent and that is what the Boko Haram’s sponsor wants us to believe. So he won’t go for the 2nd term

Otunba Adeyinka Damilola

Hmm I see. Here’s what John Oni has to say:

“Jonathan needs serious minded people around him. Inside him, i bet he knows the true nature of all these charlatans and it has so affected him negatively. He needs to be mean and wicked positively not minding any region. The end will really justify the means but as it is now? God help us o.”

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

I support that. Jonathan is a bloody civilian. I believe no one will try shit with Baba Iyabo

Sam Adeyinka Damilola

Hmm….don’t let GEJ catch you o Yemi, I’m not there o

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

It’s the truth…he’s timid and scared. Thats why!

Sam Adeyinka Damilola

Hmm….don’t let GEJ catch you o Yemi, I’m not there o

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

Yea

thereisdgod ooo

Sam Adeyinka Damilola

Do you have anything else to add dearie?

Oluwayemisi O. Atobatele

I believe God alone can help us to make Nigeria better. We need leaders and not rulers.

I personally want all those in rulership position to be eradicated and new ones should be there like me.

It’s the same people who have been ruling us for years now;they are just rotating those positions.

They all need to die for new leaders to emerge and Nigerians need to change their greedy attitude.

Thats my contribution sir.

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  1. Mohammad Naved(neo parker) says

    Nigerians have got the worst army in this world…Their army officers helping boko haram and kidnapping their own…Disgusting ,an country’s army killing its own people instead of fighting and sacrifices

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